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Aodhan MacMhaolain's avatar

Man, I really thought I was the only person writing about spheres in that way. His interpretation is much more rounded (kek) and well-thought out than mine, but I've taken this concept of spheres and domains more in a religious than a social sense.

This is a great article, and one that I have been wanting to write but it is hard to find the words for this. It's hard because I have already experienced a level of hierophany that made me convert to folkism. Secondly, I know many people with bona fide faith in the Norse Gods and even have moving accounts which compel me to believe certain things. For example, a story about an infertile woman married to a devout pagan, she was given a fertility ritual and I believe passed through a stone (unsure) and later she had a dream where two ravens told her she would have a girl and to give her a specific name. This woman probably heard about Odin's ravens some time beforehand, but she really had no idea what anything meant and just mentioned the dream offhand to her husband because she was more interested in the name and didn't get the possible significance. Now, things like this are proof only to those who already have experienced something of this regard. How often does this truly happen in the pagan revival? How often do people have bona fide hierophany? I don't know if it can be quantified.

Kind of what I am getting at is this: there are already men and women who feel or perceive the Old Gods as being active in our lives. The Weave of Wyrd, no matter what men call it, still exists and is still being woven. I do often wonder if there has already been a Ragnarok, and the Norse Gods are dead, and if the Gaelic Gods are truly just secured away on an island beneath the western sea waiting for some divine erdathe. I just don't know.

But I am compelled to believe that the Gods *are* still active, and that new powers *are* being identified. The tapestry is tattered and torn, yet we are still adding to the threads with each successive generation. Who is Columbia if not the manifestation of the American folkish spirit? She should be supplicated to by folkish Americans. Who is Adolf Hitler if not another Germanic hero akin to Arminius? He should be revered by folkish Germans.

This is a damn fine article, and I like how you navigate this controversy. In my eyes, the story is not over. It never ended. Instead of thinking about the death of the old world and its resurrection (reconstructionism) - we should instead focus on our lived experiences and ancestry (continuism). My 2 cents, at least.

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wmj's avatar

“they don’t believe in their gods, they merely believe in believing them” is a good summary of the problem. Without the supernatural, it’s all just kind of a LARP. Once established, religions can run on fumes for quite a while - you get a lot of “cultural Catholics” and “cultural Jews” etc that way - but without the miracles, eventually they run out of gas, as has happened across much of Christendom.

fwiw, the same is true even of Russian Orthodoxy, which I agree does have more vitality than many western churches. Russians do consider it part of the Russian identity and as Russia itself has risen from the nadir, so too the Church has felt more alive… but monthly church attendance is somewhere in the mid-single digit percentage of population. It too smacks of “believing in belief”.

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